tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post4228468880209986728..comments2023-08-25T05:18:29.312-06:00Comments on Madville Times: Voting Rights Call for Action: Pierre Should Guarantee Shannon County Ballotingcaheidelbergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-83116592639137453362010-09-21T21:05:14.274-06:002010-09-21T21:05:14.274-06:00I'm having a vision of a close election and mi...I'm having a vision of a close election and missing ballot boxes from Shannon County. I also see the rooms at Praire Wind Cssino booked up with lawyers.Thad Wassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633228072878507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-26792851041434180622010-09-21T18:35:57.410-06:002010-09-21T18:35:57.410-06:00Or real good, Thad; Jimmy Carter on the ground in ...Or real good, Thad; Jimmy Carter on the ground in South Dakota? How would that be bad?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-14259840501192876402010-09-21T18:11:26.078-06:002010-09-21T18:11:26.078-06:00Both sides are acting like mules.
Quickly put the...Both sides are acting like mules.<br /><br />Quickly put the egos aside or this will turn out real bad.Thad Wassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00633228072878507747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-7043529426988173532010-09-21T17:35:24.191-06:002010-09-21T17:35:24.191-06:00(clears throat...ahem...)
Ummm... guys... you ma...(clears throat...ahem...) <br /><br />Ummm... guys... you may recall that in the year 2000 the Supreme Court of the United States of America decided that Floridians in certain counties should not be able to have their votes recounted (as per Al Gore's attorney's request) because that would disenfranchise those voters in other counties who wouldn't get to have their votes recounted as well.<br /><br />So in essence, the highest court in the land trumped the State of Florida's Supreme Court decision.<br /><br />I believe the legal cite was as Cory suggests. The 14th Amendment. So yes, this is a Federal issue.<br /><br />Absolutely.Bill Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319507693205848772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-227140883715987782010-09-21T17:26:06.041-06:002010-09-21T17:26:06.041-06:00Douglas, that's why I paused, too. Sec. Nelson...Douglas, that's why I paused, too. Sec. Nelson seems to be saying, "You locals messed things up; you locals fix it." I understand that argument... and will probably use a similar argument on my daughter when warranted. <br /><br />But I'm trying to think of a good comparison. Suppose here in Lake County we elected some real meatheads to county commission, states attorney, and sheriff. Suppose they do their jobs so poorly that they alienate every lawyer in the area and make it impossible for the county to provide public defenders for trials. Yes, it's our fault for electing idiots; yes, we should be held accountable and pay for fixing the system. But there are still defendants going through the system with a right to legal representation. If I'm in Pierre, I may not want to incur expense for local idiocy, but that next level of government exists to ensure that Constitutional rights still penetrate barriers created by local idiocy. If the locals aren't providing for basic Constitutional rights, the state should come in to ensure those rights.<br /><br />I like this argument, but I'm not entirely confident with it. I look forward to other perspectives!caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-66231861209242067822010-09-21T16:32:52.309-06:002010-09-21T16:32:52.309-06:00Well Cory, I looked at the links and I see that ci...Well Cory, I looked at the links and I see that citizens should not be discriminated against, etc, but I don't see any statement of obligation of the state to provide special exceptions for special voters who have themselves elected representatives whose actions have effectively destroyed their own voting system.<br /><br />Voters in that district elected commissioners who shot their election in the foot. It would seem they have the obligation and responsibility to undo their destructive actions rather than pleading for adults to step in and clean up their mess.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13822031428178023879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-58353626577550285242010-09-21T12:18:47.152-06:002010-09-21T12:18:47.152-06:00Douglas: 14th Amendment? Voting Rights Act? South ...Douglas: <a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am14.html" rel="nofollow">14th Amendment</a>? <a href="http://www.justice.gov/crt/voting/intro/intro_b.php" rel="nofollow">Voting Rights Act</a>? South Dakota Constitution, <a href="http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Type=Statute&Statute=0N-7" rel="nofollow">Article 7</a>?<br /><br />Larry: As of September 1, Shannon County had <a href="http://sdsos.gov/electionsvoteregistration/upcomingelection_totalsbycounty.shtm" rel="nofollow">7356 registered voters</a>. 78% happen to be Dems... but I'm as interested in seeing the 8% of Shannonites who are Repubs get the same opportunity to vote.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-68011471129272330742010-09-21T12:01:36.345-06:002010-09-21T12:01:36.345-06:00Orwellian or Kafkaesque, maybe. Cory, I read that ...Orwellian or Kafkaesque, maybe. Cory, I read that article to say that "thousands" of votes are affected. Do you see that as realistic?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-64465894041515715932010-09-21T10:59:30.899-06:002010-09-21T10:59:30.899-06:00"if we weren't talking about a fundamenta..."if we weren't talking about a fundamental Constitutional (federal and state) right. Shannon and Fall River counties may need to untwist their own knickers, but the state has an obligation to ensure every eligible South Dakotan has the same opportunity to vote."<br /><br />Just curious, but where does this obligation come from?Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13822031428178023879noreply@blogger.com