tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post5114740015536845366..comments2023-08-25T05:18:29.312-06:00Comments on Madville Times: Fundagelical Gut Check: Willing to Extend Political Pulpit Speech to All Non-Profits?caheidelbergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-38730432546826603172010-07-15T21:18:56.152-06:002010-07-15T21:18:56.152-06:00I'm deep in the middle of a home improvement p...I'm deep in the middle of a home improvement project that's sucking up every spare moment, so I may not see Gordon for a while, but I'll try to remember to ask him next time I run across him.<br /><br />Regards your second paragraph, I'm not aware of any non-church nonprofit efforts on this issue, though it would certainly be in their freedom-interest to come alongside the ADF in the effort. As they say, politics can make strange bedfellows, sometimes. :-)Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-31693546749736046392010-07-15T15:33:21.765-06:002010-07-15T15:33:21.765-06:00Troy makes a good point.
If a congregation truly ...Troy makes a good point.<br /> If a congregation truly believes that electing a particular candidate is a manifestation of their beliefs, then it very well could be a matter of freedom of religion. IE. the Mormons in 1844.Barry Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-950875915836125722010-07-15T14:51:34.996-06:002010-07-15T14:51:34.996-06:00I agree with Bob. I'm for giving greater spee...I agree with Bob. I'm for giving greater speech freedom to all.<br /><br />But, I do have a small technical point: I don't think these are matters directly linked. Only indirectly/tangentially. Lefty or righty tax exempt group are a creation of the IRS via Congress and their free speech rights are distinct from that related to freedom of religion. Not quite apples and oranges.Troy Jonesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-54158396643009048372010-07-15T13:05:43.171-06:002010-07-15T13:05:43.171-06:00Bob, you'll probably see Gordon before I do. A...Bob, you'll probably see Gordon before I do. Ask him. Let me know what he says. <br /><br />Your interpretation appears to square with mine. I wonder: are there any movements comparable to the Pulpit Freedom push and gestures like Howie's coming from non-church non-profit groups?caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-9415177964440211582010-07-15T12:50:39.533-06:002010-07-15T12:50:39.533-06:00At the risk of sounding like I'm speaking for ...At the risk of sounding like I'm speaking for Howie here (I'm not, but I think he would probably agree with what I'm about to say), I think his efforts and the efforts of the rest of us who believe the same way would indirectly support the same freedom for your Leftist friends. <br /><br />Before Lydon Johnson's 1954 self-serving political amendment to the tax code, <em>all</em> non profits enjoyed unpenalized freedom to speak for against issues and candidates. There is no constitutional reason they should not continue to do so.Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.com