tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post8240901563529474741..comments2023-08-25T05:18:29.312-06:00Comments on Madville Times: Madison Loses Tree; Masons Still Standing!caheidelbergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-17824588338797616672010-04-16T07:06:40.685-06:002010-04-16T07:06:40.685-06:00Larry . You are right. The Masons have their share...Larry . You are right. The Masons have their share of of exclusionary rules, but the paranoia about them stems from once secret rituals that they have. Some very notable people in American history were masons. George Washington for one.Barry Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-52498029574614438362010-04-16T06:42:36.280-06:002010-04-16T06:42:36.280-06:00Thank you for setting me straight, John. Too many...Thank you for setting me straight, John. Too many of the historic service clubs have some exclusionary or racist underbelly.<br /><br />Have you looked into this property?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-1597526815449473502010-04-15T22:32:04.557-06:002010-04-15T22:32:04.557-06:00Larry,
You are totally off the mark. Here's m...Larry,<br /><br />You are totally off the mark. Here's my understanding from an Odd Fellow. <br /><br />Masons have a positive history. Long ago (long long ago), Free Masons were allowed to travel because they had a valuable skill that benefited the country, a time civilization was tightly controlled. Unskilled labor had no such liberties but still developed a group (Odd Fellows) to benefit their members. <br /><br />Much later, both simply developed in to fraternal organizations that enriched their community in countless ways (came to the colonies), provided nursing homes, burial services, and assistance to surviving family before our modern government accepted that role. <br /><br />Yes, they had rituals, none of which were contrary to God or Country.<br /><br />The Odd Fellows have changed their mission and offer student scholarships. Masons have their own endeavors (medical philanthropy). <br /><br />Countless people from history we respect were either or both Masons or Odd Fellows.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-22417737098484984132010-04-15T20:01:42.699-06:002010-04-15T20:01:42.699-06:00Cory:
The Masons are an eerie lot. If the buildin...Cory:<br /><br />The Masons are an eerie lot. If the building represents some nefarious past, should it survive?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-27204259089307895182010-04-15T17:56:53.947-06:002010-04-15T17:56:53.947-06:00Again, thanks for sharing! Great info on the Mason...Again, thanks for sharing! Great info on the Masons. I too recall hearing stories about the secret organization. Great memories of summer nights as a kid peaking in the windows with friends to see if we could see anything going on.Hans Lüderhagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476633326712191744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-36981366615810838692010-04-15T11:34:32.330-06:002010-04-15T11:34:32.330-06:00Link: "Built to Last Forever," Dale Nigh...Link: "<a href="http://realmadison.org/masons-history" rel="nofollow">Built to Last Forever</a>," Dale Nighbert's history of the building.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-49021137475594779092010-04-15T10:57:25.935-06:002010-04-15T10:57:25.935-06:00I remember those evergreens. They covered a big p...I remember those evergreens. They covered a big part of the building which added to the aura, at least for a 6 year old. I was just dying to know what went on in there. It was the grandest building in town but ya never saw anyone go in. My parents made it worse by saying it was a secret organization. <br /><br />Our historical society wrote a very interesting history on the local Masons and the building. There might be a link somewhere?JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-57331561702330782182010-04-15T10:31:16.228-06:002010-04-15T10:31:16.228-06:00The pics of Gary, SD were impressive. Thanks for s...The pics of Gary, SD were impressive. Thanks for sharing.Hans Lüderhagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476633326712191744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-76102775656621966432010-04-15T10:20:51.244-06:002010-04-15T10:20:51.244-06:00Curious, what happened to the Masons in Madison? W...Curious, what happened to the Masons in Madison? When did they sell the building? Anyone know?Hans Lüderhagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476633326712191744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-67616456171576397192010-04-15T09:50:34.944-06:002010-04-15T09:50:34.944-06:00Larry,
According to the owners, the building is n...Larry,<br /><br />According to the owners, the building is not for sale. The LAIC listing is an old one; it's from before the current owners purchased it.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18374662927899362351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-83204429011085411192010-04-15T09:31:24.696-06:002010-04-15T09:31:24.696-06:00Nice. If Gary can do it, Madison can!Nice. If Gary can do it, Madison can!JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-29926164764063425802010-04-15T09:31:13.732-06:002010-04-15T09:31:13.732-06:00Oh! And Larry, yes, according to the LAIC, the bui...Oh! And Larry, yes, <a href="http://madisonworks.com/Profile/Land/Masons/Page.aspx" rel="nofollow">according to the LAIC</a>, the building is for sale.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-74438882755804454292010-04-15T09:14:56.760-06:002010-04-15T09:14:56.760-06:00Argh, sorry, John! Try this.Argh, sorry, John! <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rurallearningcenter/sets/72157620777719009/" rel="nofollow">Try this.</a>Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937655360187979029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-32959120742125999442010-04-15T08:46:47.999-06:002010-04-15T08:46:47.999-06:00John, try these current pics of Gary's Buffalo...John, try these current pics of Gary's Buffalo Ridge Resort at the <a href="http://www.experiencegarysd.com/buffalo-ridge-resort.cfm" rel="nofollow">Gary SD site</a> and <a href="http://www.buffaloridgeresortsd.com/hotel/photo-tour.html" rel="nofollow">the resort's photo tour</a>caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-52284556893024160712010-04-15T07:44:59.380-06:002010-04-15T07:44:59.380-06:00John, the complex at Gary is superlative. The driv...John, the complex at Gary is superlative. The drive alone is spectacular right now. Please go look.larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-54782268507038142252010-04-15T07:40:32.022-06:002010-04-15T07:40:32.022-06:00Erin, the AFTER link is not working. Want to see,...Erin, the AFTER link is not working. Want to see, want to see.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-43833573090217608722010-04-15T07:30:04.981-06:002010-04-15T07:30:04.981-06:00Ok, Cory and Erin; I'll bite. Is the building ...Ok, Cory and Erin; I'll bite. Is the building still for sale?larry kurtzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06855417104900624838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-71959410047128006782010-04-15T07:18:28.654-06:002010-04-15T07:18:28.654-06:00Rod, have you seen the before
and after photos of...Rod, have you seen the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rurallearningcenter/sets/72157621070143224/" rel="nofollow">before</a><br /> and <a href="" rel="nofollow">after</a> photos of the restoration at the former School for the Blind in Gary? The damage in the Mason's looks like a single cracked window in comparison. But, you know, if we want to keep letting the towns around Madison come up with all the good ideas...Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937655360187979029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-51617176764403649102010-04-15T06:10:58.552-06:002010-04-15T06:10:58.552-06:00Rod, I was inside three years ago when it was up f...Rod, I was inside three years ago when it was up for sale. I was inside a couple weeks ago with an architect who said the building needs work but still has plenty of life in it... if we care enough to do the work. The Masonic temple can be made usbale... and it will have more beauty, character, and history than any crackerbox new construction we might erect in its place. The center of town is no place for just another building.<br /><br />And actually, as a building on the national historic register, the temple does not have to be brought into complete ADA compliance. It should be, and over time that's a good goal, but the law would allow an enterprising developer to focus right now on basic restoration.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-49389424281103698042010-04-14T18:36:52.971-06:002010-04-14T18:36:52.971-06:00I think it would be a pity if Madison were to get ...I think it would be a pity if Madison were to get rid of the Masonic Temple. There are so few buildings in the town with any architectural interest or history. Fix the damage and make it better ADA compliant.Hans Lüderhagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476633326712191744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-92169115770893734172010-04-14T16:10:57.201-06:002010-04-14T16:10:57.201-06:00I'm all for saving history, but if you haven&#...I'm all for saving history, but if you haven't been inside the Masonic Temple building lately, there is tremendous water damage and deterioration. It is not handicap-accessible (although it does have a small elevator). Perhaps some buildings have lived their useful life and would serve the community better if removed and replaced with something usable.GoldManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478566547133172418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-90940573088435006892010-04-14T14:57:51.164-06:002010-04-14T14:57:51.164-06:00I remember the hue and cry that went up when the t...I remember the hue and cry that went up when the two big fir trees in front of the building were removed. I'm sure this one suffered a quieter death.Olivanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153890530685124767noreply@blogger.com