tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post294928153303201997..comments2023-08-25T05:18:29.312-06:00Comments on Madville Times: Madison School Early-Vote Stacking Fine by Secretary of Statecaheidelbergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-75603789648592343152010-12-23T06:37:04.445-07:002010-12-23T06:37:04.445-07:00Rod, if giving more people the opportunity to vote...Rod, if giving more people the opportunity to vote is so important, why doesn't the school ever do this kind of early voting for school board elections?caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-77997157475061642322010-12-22T09:33:20.744-07:002010-12-22T09:33:20.744-07:00It's a perversion of something sacred.It's a perversion of something sacred.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-73024772832192439892010-12-22T07:31:55.330-07:002010-12-22T07:31:55.330-07:00I believe in the very special nature of the right/...I believe in the very special nature of the right/responsibility to vote. Young men and women have died to preserve that right. Through suffrage and civil rights movements, women and those of colored skin have endured much to obtain the right to vote. I may be old school(I was on the county commission for 8 years and saw first hand how the auditor and SOS took extreme pains to provide fair elections)but voting is a matter of responsibility. The basis of absentee voting is that the voter makes the effort and request to obtain a ballot. It is not something done while heading off to grab a hot dog and pop or picking up a program at a concert. You the voter decide, you make the drive or phone call. Bringing a voting place to the work place is sweat shop politics. No worker should be faced with that situation. He/she is there to work/do a job not to be thrust into-"here vote, make it quick, and get back to it". Every voter should have the right to decide if they want to vote and if so in a neutral situation. It doesn't matter if early voting brings on more no or yes votes. It matters how it is done. We have gone beyond the reasonable. In fact from a public relations stand point, if you wanted to place a 'damper" on yes vote efforts, then proceed with the roving polling place. Many people, both yes and no on the bond issue are upset. That leads to mistrust and lack of confidence. Not something you want in passing an important issue.Charlie Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-61295709238950793012010-12-22T06:37:02.234-07:002010-12-22T06:37:02.234-07:00"Lake County bucked the statewide trend and l..."Lake County bucked the statewide trend and landed in the lowest national quintile for compensation growth...in Lake County, the average wage decreased 1.8%, from $28,993 to $28,466. Total compensation in Lake County dropped 6.6%." This is cited from Cory's post below this topic. Lake County has lost jobs, businesses, and has decreased wages. In other words, less money to spend on wants as well as needs. If you check grocery prices and gas prices, however, they are on the rise. Needs are cutting into family budgets. This is not the time to impose a 25-year financial WANT burden on local property taxpayers. <br /><br />We are still paying off the elementary school for another 12 years, even though it was supposed to have been paid off by about this time. There is still the issue of the actual cost of this whole project as compared to what it would cost when capital outlay funds could be used for most of it.nonnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-3387175432777984852010-12-22T06:15:19.604-07:002010-12-22T06:15:19.604-07:00I do not believe anyone would have a problem with ...I do not believe anyone would have a problem with fixing needed safety and health concerns with the present high school building. However, these issues have been co-opted to influence the construction of a new gym. There was never any consideration given to alternative, less expensive plans; the architects were simply told to do whatever, which ended up with the domino theory that nothing could be done without affecting the whole, ending up with a new gym. And no one has addressed why the difference in cost between the last gym proposal and this one by about $3 million dollars! Apparently the gym shell itself is the only part of this new gym proposal being part of the $2.9 million, not the new lockers, workout room, concession area, bathrooms, and lobby. In reality these are all part of the new gym part of this renovation/new project.nonnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-37658857347521540732010-12-21T19:33:50.990-07:002010-12-21T19:33:50.990-07:00I don't see any issues with taking the opportu...I don't see any issues with taking the opportunity to vote to various events, groups or companies like Gehl. After all, you can't assume everyone who enjoys sporting events or band concerts likes paying higher taxes. A larger number of polling locations simply offers more people a chance to vote with no pre-knowledge of how they'll vote. I give Cindy Callies credit for being willing to take the extra time needed to accomodate all the requests and events.GoldManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478566547133172418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-63851179609473721812010-12-21T18:31:53.424-07:002010-12-21T18:31:53.424-07:00Oh come on, it's not about every voter being h...Oh come on, it's not about every voter being heard. It's their attempt to make voters heard they want to have heard. I was supportive of this project, but what they've done is a turn off. They lost their compass and the trust is gone. In my experience the ends never justify the means.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-22586475108387763962010-12-21T16:29:15.996-07:002010-12-21T16:29:15.996-07:00And another thing...the taxpayers of the Madison C...And another thing...the taxpayers of the Madison Central School District have not paid for a gym worthy of high school competition, unless the one in what is now Heritage High qualified back in the 1920's. And that one was paid for by the Madison School District which was comprised mostly of the City of Madison at the time. Might be time to step up to the plate and fix a number of facilities issues.Superintendent's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574755059501799009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-83447397883035628992010-12-21T16:19:20.628-07:002010-12-21T16:19:20.628-07:00Opponents of these things have the advantage stack...Opponents of these things have the advantage stacked in their favor by the legislature requiring a 60% super majority to pass these things. If the opponents cannot win then their position is really weak and shouldn't be criticizing legal means to make every voter heard.Superintendent's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574755059501799009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-50290380112346232692010-12-21T16:09:37.314-07:002010-12-21T16:09:37.314-07:00Linda, now more than ever before would be a great ...Linda, now more than ever before would be a great time for the 9-12 Project to organize a meeting of citizens unhappy with local government corruption. You could host an early voting night the first week of January, then another right before February 1. You could get your neighbors together have them call Cindy Callies to request that she hand-deliver absentee ballots to gatherings out in your neck of the woods. If you do, please document the answer you get and send it my way.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-83083427058484178272010-12-21T15:57:58.967-07:002010-12-21T15:57:58.967-07:00The one thing they do HAVE to do is provide equal ...The one thing they do HAVE to do is provide equal access to ANYONE requesting absentee ballots at ANY function or business. <br /><br />I would be ashamed if I had to resort to these tactics to get what I wanted. It seems they believe in the old adage "the end justifies the means." Except that old adage leads to much abuse and shady dealings. But I guess this is just politics as usual. Very sad for our district. <br /><br />They can't have anything to influence the voting either pro or con within 100 feet of the voting booth; that is the law. How in the world does voting in the very place at the very activity that is the main reason for this whole renovation project NOT violate this? Unbelievable!nonnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-62117023312145878132010-12-21T13:47:51.563-07:002010-12-21T13:47:51.563-07:00Will voters be required to show proof of identific...Will voters be required to show proof of identification voting at a off site polling place? What recourse does an employee have to question a polling site at their place of work when the boss is pro or con on the ballot issue? This while thing smacks of chicago politics where the motto was" vote early, vote often, and yes vote RIGHT".Charlie Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-13719740217872046732010-12-21T11:43:46.736-07:002010-12-21T11:43:46.736-07:00But the process of voting should be fair and there...But the process of voting should be fair and there shouldn't be a game to play. There shouldn't be a system that allows for undue influence. Voting should take place in a neutral place. Although they are obviously very motivated, are these actions ones to be proud of? Ones to teach your students this is how we played the system to get what we wanted? Win at the cost of fairness seem to be the lesson they want to share.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-90343698021056677522010-12-21T09:44:57.464-07:002010-12-21T09:44:57.464-07:00Maybe he'll send PP over, Cory.Maybe he'll send PP over, Cory.Bill Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08319507693205848772noreply@blogger.com