tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post5664182396630951516..comments2023-08-25T05:18:29.312-06:00Comments on Madville Times: Good: Obama's Health Care Reform. Great: Debunking Right Wing Liescaheidelbergerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-87019340405533459862009-08-10T16:42:54.870-06:002009-08-10T16:42:54.870-06:00Oops Myth 3 not 4Oops Myth 3 not 4FireBirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155339581279516096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-81348861419700528362009-08-10T16:42:12.452-06:002009-08-10T16:42:12.452-06:00MYTh 4;
Obama has stated several time, his plan i...MYTh 4;<br /><br />Obama has stated several time, his plan is to phase out private insurance.<br /><br />Tim HigginsFireBirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155339581279516096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-43251698898704386992009-08-09T23:15:23.851-06:002009-08-09T23:15:23.851-06:00There are numerous other lies that require attenti...There are numerous other lies that require attention. One of the most common tactics used and a rebuttal can be found in the comments section here: http://theamericannews.net/election/?p=860#comments. Comment 14 contains loads and loads of lies and distortions. The idea behind is to make it appear official by making it look as though someone read everything very carefully. It is just horrible. Comment 23 contains the response.<br /><br />Just thought this information could be useful. Perhaps I will be accused of helping you create an enemies list.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221115861992845316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-83916499419910921002009-08-09T21:28:03.751-06:002009-08-09T21:28:03.751-06:00By the way, Steve, who paid Terry Schiavo's me...By the way, Steve, who paid Terry Schiavo's medical bills?<br /><br />--<a href="http://www.sptimes.com/News/060301/TampaBay/Fund_for_Schiavo_s_me.shtml" rel="nofollow">malpractice lawsuit</a> (GOP wants to cap those rewards)<br />--<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2115064/" rel="nofollow">Medicaid</a> (i.e., you and I) paid for some care<br />--<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/21/MNGPVBSH331.DTL" rel="nofollow">Woodside Hospice provided free care</a> (meaning other customers footed the bill)<br />--we also paid for <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june05/schiavo_3-31.html" rel="nofollow">President Bush's special flight</a> from Texas to Washington to sign the Terri Schiavo law.<br /><br />Gee, Steve, looks like we're all already paying for each other's care. (And you'll notice that, unlike various Republicans, I don't have to make stuff up to make my point.)caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-18526943589342226442009-08-09T21:10:42.381-06:002009-08-09T21:10:42.381-06:00Neither have you, Steve. Are you saying that if yo...Neither have you, Steve. Are you saying that if you need $1 million to survive, and if you don't have that money in your pocket, your life is not worth saving?<br /><br />What I don't like in the current system is private companies take our premiums for policies that say they will cover that $1 million, then find clever ways to deny us that coverage when we occasionally need that million-dollar treatment.<br /><br />We do insurance to help each other through hard times. Almost no one can pay that $1 million bill themselves. So in principle, yes, if we can find the resources, someone else—<b>everyone else</b>—should help pay that bill.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-88449168143111611192009-08-09T20:57:57.165-06:002009-08-09T20:57:57.165-06:00You guys still have not answered this:
Question: ...You guys still have not answered this:<br /><br />Question: Should someone else pay for your $1 million per day health care bill? And if so, for how many days? Those questions need to be answered before we continue down the road of socialism.Steve Sibsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-33868629342716168652009-08-09T18:26:07.734-06:002009-08-09T18:26:07.734-06:00["Babs" -- I commented on your blog. I l...["Babs" -- I <a href="http://alettertoallmyfellowamericans.blogspot.com/2008/09/letter-to-all-my-fellow-americans.html?showComment=1249837471314#c1142418960428840500" rel="nofollow">commented on your blog</a>. I left a link above. Can you hear above your own voice? Read the <a href="http://madvilletimes.blogspot.com/2006/08/comment-moderation-madville-times.html" rel="nofollow">comment policy</a> or don't come play.]caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-58778667719924513012009-08-09T16:16:22.946-06:002009-08-09T16:16:22.946-06:00Unfortunately, Cory, you are correct: The right wi...Unfortunately, Cory, you are correct: The right wing is circulating lies about Obamacare, along with severely stretched or extrapolated partial truths. I've almost been taken in by some of the "fibs."<br /><br />This behavior is downright evil, and all responsible Republicans should denounce it at once. I won't wait for any deafening roar from that quarter, however.Stan Gibiliscohttp://www.sciencewriter.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-31169609645305468032009-08-09T16:08:23.637-06:002009-08-09T16:08:23.637-06:00To support what Kelly said above, have y'all n...To support what Kelly said above, have y'all noticed how young the reporters are on KELO?caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-63496703455313989942009-08-09T14:16:45.530-06:002009-08-09T14:16:45.530-06:00One of the things that happened during the Great D...One of the things that happened during the Great Depression of the 1930s was the failure of fraternal and ethnic associations that provided modest benefits when their members got sick to keep up with the demand for payouts. The country's economic circumstances were too overwhelming. <br /><br />I bring them up because they are an example of private institutions being OK to take care of social needs in prosperous times, but not being able to handle things during extreme, widespread financial hardship.<br /><br />I think we're at the moment now where the financial hardship isn't widespread enough for a lot of people to understand that the private system of health insurance we have now is failing. Many people still have decent, relatively affordable employer-provided insurance. They just don't get that others don't have it as good as they do.<br /><br />I offer as example a veteran reporter I know whose job went away at age 60 due to the newspaper industry imploding. He can't get a job with or without health benefits, no matter what he applies for, and he applies for a lot. Why hire him when you can hire somebody younger? <br /><br />Individual health insurance for someone who's 60 is a lot more expensive than someone who has no job anymore can pay, so not the answer. In short, the private sector has failed him, but until it fails a whole lot more people, there will be a lot of denial that the private system of health insurance is falling apart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-52597871445535965712009-08-09T12:36:23.460-06:002009-08-09T12:36:23.460-06:00[Babs, you're not listening.]
John, I'd l...[Babs, you're not <a href="http://alettertoallmyfellowamericans.blogspot.com/2008/09/letter-to-all-my-fellow-americans.html?showComment=1249837471314#c1142418960428840500" rel="nofollow">listening</a>.]<br /><br />John, I'd like to link-bomb all of the conservative propaganda blogs... but that would be comment spam. Unlike the shouters and euthanasia-criers, I have some standards. ;-)<br /><br />You do make an excellent point that health care reform isn't about sinister commie plots or welfare queens or anything else: it's about taking care of each other when times get tough, the kind of ethos America was built on.caheidelbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261598066395322681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15329279.post-33369892364538327352009-08-09T12:01:55.622-06:002009-08-09T12:01:55.622-06:00Sadly Cory, there are many more lies circulating. ...Sadly Cory, there are many more lies circulating. Can you post your link in Sibby's comment section? And other conservative blogs? Most of your readers probably get it, I hope. This is a fight worth fighting.<br /><br />Here's a local story: A farmer friend had coverage through Arctic Cat (wife's employment) for years. During that time he developed a heart condition. After closing they extinguished COBRA, but he couldn't get an individual policy (his wife and kids could). He is a totally responsible person. Fortunately he was able to get in a high risk SD pool which is $600 a month. That's $7,200 a year. How many people can afford that? Without coverage, people can loose everything they have worked for and leave their family in a bad set of circumstances, or with nothing.JohnSDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01232529806415462712noreply@blogger.com